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For months we have had competitions and battles to get our fav guys to Bali... and yes the rules changed and selection criteria kept on changing during the times because, probably in the organizers minds, the wrong people were at the top, and then the top 5 didn't matter there would be 2 teams... a no one told us that.
Now the guys are there and a competition that sounded very fair when the guys on the first day. But now each day the models come on after breakfast and tell us how the rules have changed again each day
We tip in the battles to get our team the prize, the afternoon away and maybe the weekend away at some nice place, but then suddenly 3 out of 5 wins is not a winner, or the model must get 10 or 30 k each day to get individual prizes or the weekend surprise
Yes we realize it is a fund raising activity for belami and some income for these models, who with all the tips they won to get there could have easily had the trip without the “reorganized/ ing” competitions there.
To the belami Bali organizers, sorry you have lost 6 of the regular tippers (and probably more) and we are thinking of other places or people to visit
For a big joke look at the Bali comp info on the log in page, and think of what confusion the second wave of winners will be getting into after they raise the 130 credits to qualify for selection/images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
For months we have had competitions and battles to get our fav guys to Bali... and yes the rules changed and selection criteria kept on changing during the times because, probably in the organizers minds, the wrong people were at the top, and then the top 5 didn't matter there would be 2 teams... a no one told us that.
Now the guys are there and a competition that sounded very fair when the guys on the first day. But now each day the models come on after breakfast and tell us how the rules have changed again each day
We tip in the battles to get our team the prize, the afternoon away and maybe the weekend away at some nice place, but then suddenly 3 out of 5 wins is not a winner, or the model must get 10 or 30 k each day to get individual prizes or the weekend surprise
Yes we realize it is a fund raising activity for belami and some income for these models, who with all the tips they won to get there could have easily had the trip without the “reorganized/ ing” competitions there.
To the belami Bali organizers, sorry you have lost 6 of the regular tippers (and probably more) and we are thinking of other places or people to visit
For a big joke look at the Bali comp info on the log in page, and think of what confusion the second wave of winners will be getting into after they raise the 130 credits to qualify for selection
Totally agree. It's not the models fault at all and they are all doing their best, but like you I feel let down with this competition. The rules have been disregarded/changed at will (you are totally right about the incongruity of the competition page) which does make one feel duped in supporting during the qualifying. The models work incredibly hard and these issues are absolutely not of their making but rather the organisation/management (using the terms loosely) of the contest.
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For months we have had competitions and battles to get our fav guys to Bali... and yes the rules changed and selection criteria kept on changing during the times because, probably in the organizers minds, the wrong people were at the top, and then the top 5 didn't matter there would be 2 teams... a no one told us that.
Now the guys are there and a competition that sounded very fair when the guys on the first day. But now each day the models come on after breakfast and tell us how the rules have changed again each day
We tip in the battles to get our team the prize, the afternoon away and maybe the weekend away at some nice place, but then suddenly 3 out of 5 wins is not a winner, or the model must get 10 or 30 k each day to get individual prizes or the weekend surprise
Yes we realize it is a fund raising activity for belami and some income for these models, who with all the tips they won to get there could have easily had the trip without the “reorganized/ ing” competitions there.
To the belami Bali organizers, sorry you have lost 6 of the regular tippers (and probably more) and we are thinking of other places or people to visit
For a big joke look at the Bali comp info on the log in page, and think of what confusion the second wave of winners will be getting into after they raise the 130 credits to qualify for selection
Ummm ... it is Bel Ami management after all.
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If I'd spent 12,000 credits (i.e., almost $1200) and the model demanded more, I'd tell him to go fuck himself. Why did you give him 2000 MORE credits? And then he STILL wasn't happy? I'd be willing to bet it had nothing to do with any competition.
That is the truth, there is no contest, these models are the same/images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
If I'd spent 12,000 credits (i.e., almost $1200) and the model demanded more, I'd tell him to go fuck himself. Why did you give him 2000 MORE credits? And then he STILL wasn't happy? I'd be willing to bet it had nothing to do with any competition.
Yes, I was vulnerable and got my emotions entangled in what was supposed to be fantasy. Like you said, my brain was also telling me that there was no competition. But I did not listen to it the first time. Second time, I did.
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What you say is very true, there is a model that even if you have given them enough, they ask for more and more, but many times they do not appreciate what you have given them.
Yes, that is what I came to find out.
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johnwit
3/7, 3:59am
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For months we have had competitions and battles to get our fav guys to Bali... and yes the rules changed and selection criteria kept on changing during the times because, probably in the organizers minds, the wrong people were at the top, and then the top 5 didn't matter there would be 2 teams... a no one told us that.
Now the guys are there and a competition that sounded very fair when the guys on the first day. But now each day the models come on after breakfast and tell us how the rules have changed again each day
We tip in the battles to get our team the prize, the afternoon away and maybe the weekend away at some nice place, but then suddenly 3 out of 5 wins is not a winner, or the model must get 10 or 30 k each day to get individual prizes or the weekend surprise
Yes we realize it is a fund raising activity for belami and some income for these models, who with all the tips they won to get there could have easily had the trip without the “reorganized/ ing” competitions there.
To the belami Bali organizers, sorry you have lost 6 of the regular tippers (and probably more) and we are thinking of other places or people to visit
For a big joke look at the Bali comp info on the log in page, and think of what confusion the second wave of winners will be getting into after they raise the 130 credits to qualify for selection/images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
VSCustomerService
3/7, 5:22am
| Post #2
We will contact you via email so that you can provide more information regarding your concerns/images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
JusticeCallOuts
3/7, 6:14pm
| Post #3
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I gave up on the belami models a long time ago for this reason alone. It is such a shame because the majority of the models are really nice guys but belami always manufactures a way for these models to be flooded with tips. Even without these internal competitions, their models receive so many more tips than the majority of the non belami models. It just continues to show how greedy the organisation is./images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
manni_6869
3/9, 2:34am
| Post #4
For months we have had competitions and battles to get our fav guys to Bali... and yes the rules changed and selection criteria kept on changing during the times because, probably in the organizers minds, the wrong people were at the top, and then the top 5 didn't matter there would be 2 teams... a no one told us that.
Now the guys are there and a competition that sounded very fair when the guys on the first day. But now each day the models come on after breakfast and tell us how the rules have changed again each day
We tip in the battles to get our team the prize, the afternoon away and maybe the weekend away at some nice place, but then suddenly 3 out of 5 wins is not a winner, or the model must get 10 or 30 k each day to get individual prizes or the weekend surprise
Yes we realize it is a fund raising activity for belami and some income for these models, who with all the tips they won to get there could have easily had the trip without the “reorganized/ ing” competitions there.
To the belami Bali organizers, sorry you have lost 6 of the regular tippers (and probably more) and we are thinking of other places or people to visit
For a big joke look at the Bali comp info on the log in page, and think of what confusion the second wave of winners will be getting into after they raise the 130 credits to qualify for selection
Totally agree. It's not the models fault at all and they are all doing their best, but like you I feel let down with this competition. The rules have been disregarded/changed at will (you are totally right about the incongruity of the competition page) which does make one feel duped in supporting during the qualifying. The models work incredibly hard and these issues are absolutely not of their making but rather the organisation/management (using the terms loosely) of the contest.
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beachboy31
3/10, 5:28pm
| Post #5
The right ful winners went to bali Not everyone favorites win . A bit of a sore lose./images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
johnwit
3/14, 12:16am
| Post #6
beachboy.. i did not say the right people were not at Bali... i said it was bad how belami and maybe f4f changed the rules to get the ones they wanted there.... If it was to be top five how could the top 5 on the chart be safe enough to go skiing/snowboarding in the mountains in the final week, and announce on line before they left that they had to pack for Bali as well as the mountains. i would love to know how the new guys team, not the OG one, was selected ... is most certainly was not the top 5/images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
Patrick-Dallas
3/15, 6:06pm
| Post #7
For months we have had competitions and battles to get our fav guys to Bali... and yes the rules changed and selection criteria kept on changing during the times because, probably in the organizers minds, the wrong people were at the top, and then the top 5 didn't matter there would be 2 teams... a no one told us that.
Now the guys are there and a competition that sounded very fair when the guys on the first day. But now each day the models come on after breakfast and tell us how the rules have changed again each day
We tip in the battles to get our team the prize, the afternoon away and maybe the weekend away at some nice place, but then suddenly 3 out of 5 wins is not a winner, or the model must get 10 or 30 k each day to get individual prizes or the weekend surprise
Yes we realize it is a fund raising activity for belami and some income for these models, who with all the tips they won to get there could have easily had the trip without the “reorganized/ ing” competitions there.
To the belami Bali organizers, sorry you have lost 6 of the regular tippers (and probably more) and we are thinking of other places or people to visit
For a big joke look at the Bali comp info on the log in page, and think of what confusion the second wave of winners will be getting into after they raise the 130 credits to qualify for selection
Ummm ... it is Bel Ami management after all.
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Diiegos
3/18, 4:50pm
| Post #8
beachboy.. i did not say the right people were not at Bali... i said it was bad how belami and maybe f4f changed the rules to get the ones they wanted there.... If it was to be top five how could the top 5 on the chart be safe enough to go skiing/snowboarding in the mountains in the final week, and announce on line before they left that they had to pack for Bali as well as the mountains. i would love to know how the new guys team, not the OG one, was selected ... is most certainly was not the top 5
That's true,
And if you saw the promotional video, it was recorded in Bali in the villas from where they are now, what appears in that video is what they won/images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
That's true,
And if you saw the promotional video, it was recorded in Bali in the villas from where they are now, what appears in that video is what they won/images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
manni_6869
3/18, 6:48pm
| Post #9
Totally agree about the qualification phase (as I said in my previous comment). They have listened to the feedback about having (and sticking to) some transparent 'rules' and have added these to the contest page for the second phase.
Thank you K&Co for listening x
(by the way the video is from Live House 1 in Croatia last year - it has Billy, Emilio, Natali and Hailey who were in the edition but not this one)/images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
Thank you K&Co for listening x
(by the way the video is from Live House 1 in Croatia last year - it has Billy, Emilio, Natali and Hailey who were in the edition but not this one)/images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
johnwit
3/19, 12:39am
| Post #10
Firstly congratulations to most of the model participants and their loyalty to their teams but the changes occur again. What started at three teams two boys and one girls, and we could understand the reasons for and make up of them.
Now we have three boys teams, and there are still boys to come for the last week. Why did administration make a third boys team?
I am sure the rule changing administrators would not reward a model who would not support the team he was in and freely say in open chat.....“I would rather be in the girls team than work with those guys”.
So much for team loyalty. Also telling his room users that he would not be doing his best in the team battles and to save their credits for him in the St Patricks competition.
Why would administration reward this behaviour and make a new team with him as captain? Promotion rather than dismissal.. a great idea.
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Now we have three boys teams, and there are still boys to come for the last week. Why did administration make a third boys team?
I am sure the rule changing administrators would not reward a model who would not support the team he was in and freely say in open chat.....“I would rather be in the girls team than work with those guys”.
So much for team loyalty. Also telling his room users that he would not be doing his best in the team battles and to save their credits for him in the St Patricks competition.
Why would administration reward this behaviour and make a new team with him as captain? Promotion rather than dismissal.. a great idea.
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DaniGa22
3/25, 3:54pm
| Post #11
I don't like these competitions and how the models beg and manipulate the customers for credits. I once spent over 12,000 credits on a private show with a model here (not a belami model). At the end when I expected him to he happy and grateful he said that there is a competition going on and he needed 2000 more credits to win the competition. I did another private session for 2000 credits and when it was over he said he still needed more credits to win the competition. I decided not to continue. A model should earn credits and win based on his talent, appeal and hard work. Not by using a nice, and somewhat vulnerable, customer to put him on top./images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
gloababatrana
3/25, 4:36pm
| Post #12
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I don't like these competitions and how the models beg and manipulate the customers for credits. I once spent over 12,000 credits on a private show with a model here (not a belami model). At the end when I expected him to he happy and grateful he said that there is a competition going on and he needed 2000 more credits to win the competition. I did another private session for 2000 credits and when it was over he said he still needed more credits to win the competition. I decided not to continue. A model should earn credits and win based on his talent, appeal and hard work. Not by using a nice, and somewhat vulnerable, customer to put him on top.
If I'd spent 12,000 credits (i.e., almost $1200) and the model demanded more, I'd tell him to go fuck himself. Why did you give him 2000 MORE credits? And then he STILL wasn't happy? I'd be willing to bet it had nothing to do with any competition.
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If I'd spent 12,000 credits (i.e., almost $1200) and the model demanded more, I'd tell him to go fuck himself. Why did you give him 2000 MORE credits? And then he STILL wasn't happy? I'd be willing to bet it had nothing to do with any competition.
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Diiegos
3/25, 5:02pm
| Post #13
I don't like these competitions and how the models beg and manipulate the customers for credits. I once spent over 12,000 credits on a private show with a model here (not a belami model). At the end when I expected him to he happy and grateful he said that there is a competition going on and he needed 2000 more credits to win the competition. I did another private session for 2000 credits and when it was over he said he still needed more credits to win the competition. I decided not to continue. A model should earn credits and win based on his talent, appeal and hard work. Not by using a nice, and somewhat vulnerable, customer to put him on top.
What you say is very true, there is a model that even if you have given them enough, they ask for more and more, but many times they do not appreciate what you have given them./images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
What you say is very true, there is a model that even if you have given them enough, they ask for more and more, but many times they do not appreciate what you have given them./images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
Diiegos
3/25, 5:04pm
| Post #14
If I'd spent 12,000 credits (i.e., almost $1200) and the model demanded more, I'd tell him to go fuck himself. Why did you give him 2000 MORE credits? And then he STILL wasn't happy? I'd be willing to bet it had nothing to do with any competition.
That is the truth, there is no contest, these models are the same/images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
DaniGa22
3/25, 6:23pm
| Post #15
If I'd spent 12,000 credits (i.e., almost $1200) and the model demanded more, I'd tell him to go fuck himself. Why did you give him 2000 MORE credits? And then he STILL wasn't happy? I'd be willing to bet it had nothing to do with any competition.
Yes, I was vulnerable and got my emotions entangled in what was supposed to be fantasy. Like you said, my brain was also telling me that there was no competition. But I did not listen to it the first time. Second time, I did.
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DaniGa22
3/25, 6:26pm
| Post #16
What you say is very true, there is a model that even if you have given them enough, they ask for more and more, but many times they do not appreciate what you have given them.
Yes, that is what I came to find out.
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JeremyJock
3/31, 12:16pm
| Post #17
Unfortunately, these issues aren't new. Couple of years ago I helped a model finish in 5th Place, which under Flirt4Free's rules should have qualified him for the Summit trip to Bali. belami then told him he needed to earn 55k more credits for the trip. He objected and the studio did not send him.
Plain and Simple: The Studio should not be CHANGING THE RULES or MAKING UP NEW RULES beyond what Flirt4Free publishes on its website for the Summit.
Ultimately the model quit because of the incident. Nowadays I completely ignore the Summit, because I can't rely that the credits I spend will be properly counted towards the model's eligibility./images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
Plain and Simple: The Studio should not be CHANGING THE RULES or MAKING UP NEW RULES beyond what Flirt4Free publishes on its website for the Summit.
Ultimately the model quit because of the incident. Nowadays I completely ignore the Summit, because I can't rely that the credits I spend will be properly counted towards the model's eligibility./images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
JusticeCallOuts
3/31, 5:15pm
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Unfortunately, these issues aren't new. Couple of years ago I helped a model finish in 5th Place, which under Flirt4Free's rules should have qualified him for the Summit trip to Bali. belami then told him he needed to earn 55k more credits for the trip. He objected and the studio did not send him.
Plain and Simple: The Studio should not be CHANGING THE RULES or MAKING UP NEW RULES beyond what Flirt4Free publishes on its website for the Summit.
Ultimately the model quit because of the incident. Nowadays I completely ignore the Summit, because I can't rely that the credits I spend will be properly counted towards the model's eligibility.
I never support the belami models with ANY competitions anymore because the studio always create these additional internal contests. Over the years, the studio have increased the number of these internal contests so as soon as I enter a belami chatroom and see a message saying "Help us earn 95K to win the contest" or "I only need 20K more credits to have my flight costs paid to Bali", I immediately leave as I know the models are only interested in earning credits without giving individualised attention unless you are willing to give them credits.
No matter how much the models earn, they always need more and the studio continues to increase the credit thresholds, as they are only interested in gaining as many credits as possible.
Unless you have a massive wallet or can afford to lose money, I suggest you ignore and reject these additional internal contests!
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Plain and Simple: The Studio should not be CHANGING THE RULES or MAKING UP NEW RULES beyond what Flirt4Free publishes on its website for the Summit.
Ultimately the model quit because of the incident. Nowadays I completely ignore the Summit, because I can't rely that the credits I spend will be properly counted towards the model's eligibility.
I never support the belami models with ANY competitions anymore because the studio always create these additional internal contests. Over the years, the studio have increased the number of these internal contests so as soon as I enter a belami chatroom and see a message saying "Help us earn 95K to win the contest" or "I only need 20K more credits to have my flight costs paid to Bali", I immediately leave as I know the models are only interested in earning credits without giving individualised attention unless you are willing to give them credits.
No matter how much the models earn, they always need more and the studio continues to increase the credit thresholds, as they are only interested in gaining as many credits as possible.
Unless you have a massive wallet or can afford to lose money, I suggest you ignore and reject these additional internal contests!
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beachboy31
4/6, 3:05am
| Post #19
Well said patrick/images/_common/forums/emoticons/' }
JusticeCallOuts
4/6, 11:44pm
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